User talk:Remsense

An additional note

Frankly I have concerns about a pattern of behavior with ProKMT making a whole slew of edits to infoboxes and tags with some clear and frustrating systematic biases that I could best describe as treating any movement for Chinese autonomy from the west as intrinsically reactionary. I assumed it was just anti CPC stuff at first but I think it's more than that. And they've not been great about engaging at talk or on their own userpage to discuss slowing down, paying more attention to reliable sources, avoiding OR, or collaborating to improve the grammar of their more extensive edits. The Boxer Rebellion edit was one more egregious example out of a consistent and worrying pattern. Simonm223 (talk) 00:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm going to ping @ProKMT for full transparency so they may see and respond to comments on their behavior if they so choose. That said, I certainly feel your concerns are warranted. I suppose I have demurred to date because...well, I don't want to seem anti-KMT, now do I? Remsense诉 00:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Please do. I've tried to reach out to them and, assuming they are a new editor, I would prefer that they listen and develop as an editor. Perhaps other people reaching out to them will help. But if they continue this spree of POV editing I think it's going to end in drama. Simonm223 (talk) 00:33, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

I haven't heard anything more from ProKMT regarding my concerns - but they've continued pushing the POV that, for instance, the DPP is not anti-Communist, that even the KMT is against unification, and a general tendency to treat pro-western factions as left and pro-unity factions as right. This is starting to look a lot like WP:RADAR - have they spoken at all to you? Simonm223 (talk) 13:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

They may not get pings. I think it's worthwhile having this conversation on their talk page. Remsense诉 13:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Clarification about the note in Draft:Linguistic monogenesis and polygenesis

Sorry, I didn't understand the note you left in Draft:Linguistic monogenesis and polygenesis, particularly the part where you said that when both monogenesis and polygenesis exist. The opinion on most professionals in the field is that either monogenesis (the most accepted) or polygenesis exist. , and the options aren't overlapping (the Nicaraguan Sign Language isn't a real language; according to Judy Shepard-Kegl, “[i]t had all the right characteristics to fool the human brain into thinking, ‘That’s a language.’ So, they learned it. It wasn’t a language, but their brains filled in the holes of what was missing. That’s the kind of formula for this.” . So could you, please, clarify a little more? Thank you, Pcg111 (talk) 08:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC).

I meant that both articles exist, as you know from linking to them, so it's unclear what an article that talks about one and then the other is doing other than a content fork. In general, unless there is a massive contention in a field that needs its own article, the dialogue is best placed on one of the aforementioned more specific articles. Remsense诉 08:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

P. D.: I had the idea of merging Monogenesis (linguistics) and Polygenesis (linguistics) into this article (I translated it from the Spanish Wikipedia). Pcg111 (talk) 08:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

If you have that idea, you should propose a merge request on one of the article talk pages, or perhaps on WikiProject Linguistics. Remsense诉 08:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

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May music

story · music · places

Congratulations! - On the bicentenary of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and in my concerts (leading to the two at the church's article). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

You'll have to forgive me for the pure tangent inspired by perusing your music pages: it's never occurred to me before to ask what the history is, if any, surrounding the embracing of Bach's music by Catholic Europe. Of course he was born after the wars of religion had ended and it would be a while before his work was universally acclaimed, but surely there's some very interesting ecumenical history given the very distinct Catholic, Lutheran and Calvinist musical contexts. Remsense诉 03:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't know much about history, but believe that Bach - having been called the fifth Evangelists - is far more "catholic" in the word's original meaning than any group/denomination, and music a more universal and more emotional language than words. I am Protestant and sing in that Catholic church choir since their St Matthew Passion, and if you follow the concert history there was a first ecumenical project in 2000 - with Bach cantatas. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Today is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps watch a bit how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

did you listen and see? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

1. Were there particularly lovely insights in Hinterdobler and Holender's conversation? Youtube's auto-translating subtitles didn't help me much in this case.
2. I love Hedi Skoop's Ruhe sculpture.
3. I still feel I haven't quite lived my original introduction down. You're too kind to feel that way, but suffice it to say I've actively attempted to learn from my missteps. :)

Remsense诉 15:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

The insights were less important to me than being able to meet the personalities a bit. You may have seen that the Holender DYK nom was - after already in prep to appear - rejected and discussed, and I wasn't too kind but stubbornly refused several offers of alternatives. The Hinterdobler nom went fine, and there was even interest for the opera while on the Main page, but now she is up for deletion. I should be thankful because that really raised interest ;) - My English isn't up to a phrase such as "live an intention down" - could you say that differently? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for asking me to rephrase, I have a bad habit of writing unclearly when I don't need to. What I mean to say is: I'm still embarrassed about my previous behavior a bit, but in a way I'm glad I was so foolish, because it resulted in me getting to know you better. Thank you for your grace in that. :) Remsense诉 15:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

that sounds lovely! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

I heard lovely chamber music today, and the DYK mentions "profoundly human" singing (that you can watch), connected to a place where we'll sing in September --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for improving articles in May! - Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations to another GA! - Do you think Ethel Smyth has GA potential? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:49, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, and certainly! I feel like I learn things everyone should know every time I read about suffragettes. Remsense诉 20:00, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

I'll look into it, - so far my contribution to the article - written by many, mostly Sfjohna - was adding the infobox ;) - without any trouble, - for some reason I don't know the opposition seems to focus on men of FA caliber, - compare Clara Schumann and Imogen Holst. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

As if to demonstrate, today we look at Gustav Holst. Can we agree that the 2016 discussion (still on the talk!) was perhaps not the best use of everybody's time? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story, actually something I saw at that place in a revival. - 100 years after the almost-riot we had the infobox discussion, often mentioned in the arbcase? - Today a user who returned after several years said that nothing changed. Would you agree? I wouldn't ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:17, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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sfn v sfnp

It's a personal taste thing, but to my eye, {{sfnp}} produces a "nicer" result than {{sfn}}:

• Tsien & Needham (1985), pp. 201–217.

v

• Tsien & Needham 1985, pp. 201–217.

Ditto {{harvp}} v {{harvnb}}

See also User talk:SMcCandlish/How to use the sfnp family of templates

Your call. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

I am relieved that I find both acceptable most of the time, given how anal I get about other aspects of citation (e.g. I think I'm an ISBN-13 3-1-3-5-1 partisan in the extreme) so I try to avoid changing things I'm not particuar with as to not potentially inconvenience anyone as per REFVAR, I agree it looks considerably nicer when citing a work by two authors, I'll use this as a pretense to switch over, just for fun. Remsense诉 02:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Following up

Re: this FYI I am the instructor supervising the student. I expect a lot of them are using AI tools, but - is there a smoking gun here I am missing?

I am revising my instructions for students at User:Hanyangprofessor2/sandbox (old) with newer ones currently listed on my userpage. The students were supposed to be leaving image reviews at Commons, not at Wikipedia's FAC, but some clicked a wrong link... _{Piotrus at Hanyang| reply here} 05:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

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Feedback request: Linguistics wars.

Hello,

I have considered your latest review of this article Linguistics wars I edited as part of my assignment. I would love it if you could find the time to review the article again. I have adjusted the article to fit the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Also, I would like to let you know that I plan on extending the article even further in the near future.

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Hello, thank you for being so receptive to my critique, I'm taking a look right now! Remsense诉 04:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

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Why remove this source?

https://cuddlysnowman.com/w/index.php?title=Interracial_marriage&diff=prev&oldid=1223464445#Russia

Here are the statistic of intermarriage between Russian ethnic groups (scroll down)

https://iq.hse.ru/en/news/177665069.html this source is reliable is it not? HabichuelasBeans (talk) 19:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Your addition was unencyclopedic and didn't provide any context to the audience other than specific bare statistics. Remsense诉 23:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not understanding this. Isn't this source 100% accurate when they said this?

" In his ground-breaking research, Eugeny Soroko, Senior Research Fellow at the HSE Institute of Demography"

" According to Soroko's estimates based on data from the 2010 National Census, 12% of all married couples in Russia are between people of different ethnicities "

" The researcher measured the different groups' tendency to form interethnic marriages by using both censuses' micro data to build a matrix (Table 4) containing 15,080,000 ethnically homogeneous (diagonal) and 2,060,000 ethnically mixed (off-diagonal) couples—the latter stand at 12% of all couples included in the matrix."

"Table 4. Matrix of Ethnic Combinations in Married Couples, Russia, 2010, number of couples (fragment). " HabichuelasBeans (talk) 05:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

The passage didn't explain to the reader what the figures meant, why they might be important, or in what context they came from. Therefore, the passage did not belong on a general-purpose encyclopedia. See here. Remsense诉 06:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Qi

Hi, I saw your rollback of my copy edit to Qi. I think it would have been better to replace just the word "unusual" if there is an issue with it, and preserve the rest of my edits, which I think are still an improvement. What about "uncommon"? Or " rare"? Or did you think the rest of the edit was not an improvement? (Honestly I'm not sure that sentence belongs in the article at all but that's a separate conversation). Anyway thanks, I'm interested to hear what you think. delldot ∇. 03:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

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Constantine XI Paliaologos’s religion

     Hello, one of my edits on the page of Constantine XI Paliaologos have been reversed. This is a mistake because Constantine XI Paliaologos was a Greek Catholic and here's some evidence and sources.

Just as his predecessor (John VIII Palaiologos) Constantine XI Paliaologos converted to Catholicism. They converted to gain help from Western Europe, and the Papal States from the Ottoman Turks.

Another piece of evidence is his Sainthood. In the Eastern Orthodox Church, and other eastern Christian churches Constantine XI isn't considered a saint. Why? It's because he died as a Greek Catholic, this is why the only church where he's considered a saint is in the Greek Catholic Church.

He converted to Catholicism in 1437 at the Council of Florence and because of this the Pope did tried to save Constantinople from the Ottomans by sending in Venetian troops to defend it. That's also why emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos died a Catholic.

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We need a direct citation where a reliable source describes him as Eastern Catholic. What you've presented above is original research. Remsense诉 00:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Zhemao hoax

You said "generally do not state the name of non-notable people", but the name appeared in the title and in the next sentence "...as Zhemao used machine translation to understand...". Here "Zhemao" suddenly appeared in the running text without any explanation. It is obviously better to explain it as "...Zhemao, an editor of the Chinese Wikipedia...". --by Huhu9001 (talk) at 09:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) comment: In general, Remsense is correct but in this specific case, I think that Huhu9001 has a valid argument. The model we should follow is Hitler Diaries, a hoax of far larger significance. Trying to follow the general rule resulted in a sentence that was difficult to read and gave the impression of NPOV and objectivity failure. I have revised the lead sentence so that it reads The Zhemao hoaxes were a series of over 200 interconnected Wikipedia articles about falsified aspects of medieval Russian history written from 2012 to 2022 by "Zhemao", a pseudonymous editor of the Chinese Wikipedia. However I don't consider it appropriate the put her name in bold, even though Zhemao redirects there. Of course, others may disagree. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk)

Thank you but I did not put Zhemao's name in bold. --by Huhu9001 (talk) at 03:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

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When you revert obvious promo

Hi, many thanks for reverting the IP's ridiculous promo at Talk:Rice. I'm warning them now, so that they know it's not OK. In future, when you see such stuff, please immediately give a warning, as people need to be made fully aware that Wikipedia won't tolerate this stuff even from total newbies. With any luck, they'll tell their mates that it's not worth trying (we live in hope). Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:28, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Sure! I tend to ramp up to lv2+ faster than most already. Remsense诉 06:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Why did you reverse my edit on the note a of the 'Philo of Alexandria' article?

I edited it because there seems to be an error on the note a — Preceding unsigned comment added by JulianMW8 (talk • contribs)

You removed the {{tlit}} template, which is important for indicating when text is in a non-English language. Remsense诉 10:24, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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@Daniel Case: could you point me to where Remsense violated 3RR? They've only made one recent edit to Philo... theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:04, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: The article was Russian Civil War.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:17, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

This seems to be a ongoing problem that they should have asked for help with. Live and learn. Moxy🍁 22:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. Remsense诉 00:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

seems like the wrong person was banned. Artem.G (talk) 11:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I accept the 24: I was going about things in a disruptive way. Remsense诉 11:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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I've said it more than enough, but one more time: I literally could not have asked for a better GAN reviewer, and I learned way more in the process than I even expected with your help. The article is really something I can be proud of in part thanks to you. Since I've looked at it far too much since October, I figure a FAC can start happening after I can look at it with fresh eyes. Remsense诉 10:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations!!! Thank you for your hard work. Go take a break. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 14:16, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Article description deleted by you

I recently added a short description to the article Philosophy of Mathematics and it was reverted by you as you deemed it unimportant or just repeating the title. I am a fairly new editor and you're probably more experienced than me, but I believe there is no issue with it as similar articles like Philosophy of science and Philosophy of language both have descriptions, so I added it so that it will be in line with the rest. Also, I did not just repeat the title in my description, but I added a short description of it. In the end, you are probably more experienced and I'm not asking for it to be added back if it does in fact break the rules. Thank you

~~~~ JustaNormalLad (talk) 13:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Those articles shouldn't have short descriptions either. As a rule of thumb, when there's no way to describe the topic without merely repeating or rephrasing the title, there shouldn't be a short description. Remsense诉 13:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Basic Hanja for Educational Use

Hi, Remsense, I saw that you reverted my edit to Basic Hanja for Educational Use. To me it did not seem unreasonable that an article about the Basic Hanja for Educational Use would simply list them for reference, just as the Mandarin and Japanese versions of the article do; your thoughts, and do you feel it is likewise inappropriate for those versions to list the characters as well? Thanks, Arrandale Westmere (talk) 15:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello! It might be worth taking a look at WP:NOTMIRROR as well. Basically, save for specific cases we are writing encyclopedia articles, which simply are not designed to contain mirrors of primary sources. It's generally considered best to put the table on Wikisource or Wikiversity. Then, you can link to it in a convenient little sidebar box using a template like {{Wikisource}}. If you need help doing any of this, please let me know! Cheers, happy editing Remsense诉 18:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Regarding the source of E=mc^2

Dear Remsense,

It currently says in the Samuel Tolver Preston article that Dr. Preston discovered the relationship between energy and matter before Albert Einstein was even born. It currently says this in the wiki article.

I challenge you to use reliable sources to post in the Samuel Tolver Preston article that would accredit Einstein to this discovery.

Otherwise just jump on the bandwagon of idiots that do not contemplate real scientific inquiry, discovery and critique.

Sincerely,

K00L-A1D

K00la1dx (talk) 22:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) comment: Preston's conjecture was unproven and unprovable, because its foundation premise – the existence of an "ether" (or "aether") – is fundamentally wrong, it doesn't exist. For the long explanation, see Aether theories. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 23:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Dr. Preston came out with Physics of the Ether 5 years before Einstien was born. It is all there E=Mc^2 derived from relativity and general relativity. There are several credible sources that site this including Dr Preston's own book. Physics of Ether again written 5 years before the birth of Einstein. Maxwells equations also assume the ether and he was not written out of history... K00la1dx (talk) 15:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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